The declaration of a state of emergency in Rivers State by President Bola Tinubu has continued to generate combined reactions. On Channels Tv’s Politics At present programme, former Agriculture Minister Audu Ogbeh warned that bringing a former service chief to switch an elected governor is sending a flawed sign that Nigerians nonetheless need army rule. The previous Nationwide Chairman of the Peoples Democratic Celebration (PDP) stated it’s unfair for the president to droop Governor Siminalayi Fubara and retain the Minister of the Federal Capital Territory (FCT), who’re each actors within the political disaster.
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What’s your stance on the choice of President Bola Tinubu?
I feel that the use or declaration of states of emergency is one thing that we must always keep away from as a lot as attainable. It’s a really harmful development as a result of it’s undoubtedly not going to be at all times honest and simply. It would at all times go away a bitter style within the mouths of these affected and a sure sense of victory and triumph within the minds of those that assume they’ve received. In a rustic the place ethnicity is a severe matter, and the place we must be a bit cautious about what we do, it’s one thing we must always apply solely very sparingly. That’s my response.
What we noticed in Ekiti, what we noticed in Plateau State below former President Olusegun Obasanjo, are you able to examine it with what we’re seeing in Rivers State?
Properly, on every of those events, I used to be chairman of the occasion. The President had extra info than I had. Due to this fact, making feedback on how precarious he thought the scenario was on the time could be troublesome for me. What I feel we must always do after this one is that we should keep away from using this provision as a lot as attainable. I feel that the president is a well-informed particular person, highly effective sufficient to organise a gaggle of individuals with enough ethical and social authority to take a seat down with the primary actors and resolve a few of these points earlier than they get to the purpose of proclamations of states of emergency. Everyone knows that the ethnic tinderbox in Nigeria could be very simple to inflame. We don’t need fights, we don’t need riots, and we don’t need assassinations.
When these issues started, in equity to the president, he did name the Rivers State gentleman to the villa as soon as. That didn’t appear to work. We must always, as quickly as attainable, even earlier than the six months go, the president ought to discover strong people in River State, males, girls and youths to take a seat down and ask them to mediate on this matter and discover out precisely the place the issues lay and attraction significantly to the 2 warring individuals. Rivers State is larger than any particular person. We as a rustic and as countrymen aren’t enthusiastic about watching a scenario the place Rivers State and your entire Niger Delta will go up in flames. Nigeria has lived off the Niger Delta for 40 years. We admire what they’ve carried out for Nigeria as a result of their oil has been fuelling our expenditure. No person needs a disaster within the Niger Delta.
When the matter got here earlier than the Nationwide Meeting for voting, I want to counsel to the Nationwide Assemblymen to put in a capability sooner or later for particular person voting as a result of sometime, 10 to twenty years from now, their youngsters and grandchildren and researchers want to learn how people voted on a specific invoice. Hays and nays don’t give us a transparent image of the place and the ethical authority of particular person senators or members of the Home. No person ought to cover below a shadow. In order for you a vote, say so. If you happen to don’t need it, say so. These hays and nays are a camouflage and don’t work. I used to be a Deputy Speaker of the Home of Meeting in Benue State between 1979 and 1982. So, if points like that got here up, and we wished to know who stood in what place on a invoice, we did counted ourselves.
Are you fearful as a result of there are those that say the structure is silent on whether or not the president can droop any elected members as within the case of Governor Siminalayi Fubara, Mrs Ngozi Odu, and the Home of Meeting members?
Properly, I need to say that the choice of the President shouldn’t overrule the vote of the individuals who made that particular person governor. The individuals of Rivers voted for any person; the individuals of Plateau voted for any person. If that particular person just isn’t doing the correct factor, is it morally proper for a person to have the authority to take away him from workplace? That’s one thing that the nation ought to debate, and that’s one thing that must be amended or corrected.
As an elder statesman, how do you assume the president ought to have dealt with this for many who have accused him of bias on this matter?
A president is a person who ought to have sympathy. The job of the president is a superhuman project. That man, day-after-day of the week, should be ageing like a month due to the sorts of issues that come earlier than him. So, generally, it’s nearly not possible to think about the strain he goes via. Nonetheless, I counsel {that a} reconciliation committee needs to be arrange as quickly as attainable. And that sooner or later, when such a scenario arises, these people who’re the warring factions needs to be introduced earlier than senior residents of the state and instructed the plain fact.
There’s at all times any person who’s doing way more or far lower than she or he ought to, and there’s at all times any person who is just too aggressive for the remainder of the group. I feel the individuals of Rivers – senior residents ought to have the braveness to say to such an individual, when you did this, it’s flawed, when you didn’t do this, it’s flawed however eradicating an elected particular person is one thing that won’t precisely rhyme with political and democratic concepts as a result of that’s to say that after an election, the archbishop of the state or the chief imam of the state or the oldest conventional ruler there can say to the governor: ‘We don’t need you anymore’. And he packs his baggage and goes. In any case, the president didn’t vote within the state. That’s one thing that we have to look into. I imply, it’s a really tough matter.
If you happen to had been within the president’s sneakers, what would you do?
I’ll let you know what I might have carried out. Yet another assembly wouldn’t do any hurt to the bigger committee of elders of Rivers State to allow them to hear the arguments of each side. In order that by the point you say, look, when you can’t test yourselves, I could should take a extra drastic resolution, the entire world will know that you just tried very exhausting.
I do know a president is an individual below superhuman strain, and having met with them as soon as, and the matter didn’t go properly, he opted for what seems to be the quick answer. However, the truth that one is an appointee of his and the opposite is an elected particular person makes it unfair to take away the one you didn’t appoint and do nothing in regards to the one you’re appointed. I feel that’s one of many arguments that persons are placing ahead. However sooner or later, elders and occasion members ought to be capable to become involved in coping with these issues.
There are those that are afraid of what a extra autocratic chief may use the Part 305 of the 1999 Structure to do. What do you assume we have to appropriate urgently?
Properly, if sure sections of the structure are starting to point out themselves as problematic, we must always start to think about constitutional amendments as a result of the one discussion board that may deal with that’s the Nationwide Meeting. Folks ought to submit memoranda. However, will we simply go away it as it’s, hoping that the president will at all times be honest and balanced in these choices? As I stated, a president is a person or lady below horrible strain. Nonetheless, eradicating any person who was elected by a complete state by a sentence from one particular person elsewhere might look a bit tough and to not say unjust, so it’s one thing that Nigeria ought to start to debate after this.
We perceive that the administrator of Rivers State has formally resumed obligation. If you happen to had been to advise Vice Admiral Ibok-Ete Ibas, what would you be telling him tonight?
Properly, he has an project. He ought to keep it up quietly, take heed to all sides, discover out what the grievances are, and be honest and simply so far as is humanly attainable. The one different factor that I’m asking is: Why is it that every time there’s this suspension of a governor, a army particular person is put again in place? Will we miss army rule, or are we suggesting that civilians are incapable of governing themselves?
Obasanjo did it twice, in truth, thrice, and we have now it once more. What’s the logic? This is the reason, within the first place, this complete imposition of a state of emergency needs to be averted. It was not carried out in Borno throughout Boko Haram, regardless that to each sense and diploma, the scenario there was way more chaotic than we have now now. When Boko Haram was operating riots, that’s all, but it surely’s as much as the president. Because the structure doesn’t say you possibly can solely decide this or that particular person, the president is free to take action, but it surely’s additionally sending a humorous sign that civilians can’t do the job themselves. That’s not an excellent one. That’s why civilians themselves needs to be extra accountable. Elected people ought to behave themselves and never keep it up as if it’s a vacation and that they will do as they need as a result of they’re sending the flawed sign to society.
If you’re elected, be humble. If you’re appointed, be humble. If you’re an appointed particular person, you’re primarily a public relations officer. Behave your self, and don’t interact in warfare as a result of it could provide the kicks. It’s not proper. And there’s no cause why people within the state can not get collectively to iron out issues. We had this problem after I was PDP chairman, it wasn’t simple. On every event, the choices had been taken. You weren’t at all times instructed what was going to occur, after which we tried to patch it up. I went to every of those states after the suspensions, and the strain was very excessive, however by some means, we managed to calm it down. It’s not one thing that ought to occur too typically.
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